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Upper left Shortly after completion, Upper right, dissembled to show break-down of components To show how it would be transported in Ford Explorer, Lower left: August 2007, next to Carlos from Argentina's GAMA group and the 10 inch Traveler |
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Designing & Building the 24 inch f/4 “ultra light” Dobsonian |
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At first glance, it should be abundantly evident what the objective was when I designed this telescope. Make it minimal and light. Is this the world's lightest 24 inch Telescope? I do not know for sure, but at 105 pounds, I am sure it is amongst the lightest. It is 30 pounds lighter than the 8 inch Telescope built in 1974 and it has 9 times the Light Gathering Power. |
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Getting Started |
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One day in October 1999, while visiting
Steve Swayze and
Swayze Optical to exchange Solar
Eclipse pictures, Steve asked me if I would be interested in selling my
18 inch Telescope? I told him that I would trade him the
18 inch for a 24 inch mirror.
Eventually a similar deal was struck.
I liked the
18 inch
a lot and was reluctant to part with it, but I was also anxious to take the next
step with a new design. |
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Design Criteria |
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This telescope did not
take as long to design as the 18. Once the 18 was completed, I was working
on new designs and sketching renderings.
The criteria for the design were similar to that of the
18 inch.
1.) I required compactness and portability.
It had to fit comfortably into the Ford Explorer and still leave plenty
of room for camping gear,
2.) It had to be light and manageable by one person,
3.) I required quick set up and take down,
4.) I wanted the lines of the Telescope to be smooth, simple
and even artistic. The 24 inch was the logical next size up from an 18 inch. It has 80% more light gathering power, but is still manageable by one person by using a thinner (1-5/8 inch) mirror. In addition, the thinner mirror’s has a faster cool down time |
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The design criteria called for 6 trusses instead of 8.
But it also called for the mounting of the alt-bearings to the bottom of
the "Astro System" Baltic Birch Mirror Cell instead of the sides.
This was to reduce the foot print, reduce the span between the bearings, and to
increase strength. The 6 truss and small footprint design criteria were somewhat
contradicting in that 6 trusses cannot be spread out far on a small square
footprint. This problem was solved by pivoting the 4 “rear” trusses at the cage
connection so that they could be spread out farther.
The front trusses are mounted on the cross bar between and next to the
alt–bearings. A brace underneath
the Alt Bearing "cross bar" transfers the load of the front trusses
down the bearing and to where the “side” trusses are mounted. Not perfect, but this seemed
to be the best overall truss configuration. Other configurations
considered, didn't seem to have as good of leverage, or interfered with the
light path, or placed the trusses on weaker center of the cross bar.
Another consideration was mounting the front trusses on the end of the bearing. The cross bar could be mounted on the top or end of the bearing. The side trusses could then be mounted nearby as well. I liked the look a lot, but my concern about the design was that it would create a lot of load on a weak part of the bearing, possibly creating flexing as the telescope is rotated. The purpose of the crossbar being located in the middle with reinforcement between it and the mirror cell, is to prevent "racking". As the telescope is rotated to the horizon, one can observe that there are two 3/4 inch alt-bearings supporting a 72 pound mirror and cell. And there is a lot of daylight between them and the "carrier", sometimes referred to as a "flex board".
The 6 Trusses permitted the the Mirror Cell to be
cut in a more rounded shape at the rear of the scope. This reduced
additional weight.
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Alt Bearing |
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Base & Cam Follower Bearing |
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The focuser is a motorized JMI model. |
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Picture shows Cage nesting on the "Mirror Box". The spider is assemble by bolting the carbon Vanes to one side of the short aluminum Spider Vanes. Sorbothane is sandwiched in between the aluminum and carbon Vanes. The Vanes are connected to "Cage Ring Posts" in the same manner. The tabs sticking up from the Ring ( top of the picture) is what the Light Shield attaches to. The Shield slides over the tabs. 2 of the 3 Spider alignment knobs can be seen. The Spider's shaft is spring loaded with the brass knob on top of the shaft used for adjusting tension. The picture shows
the mirrored plexi-glass Mirror Cover in place over the Mirror. |
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The total weight of the telescope is approximately 104 pounds. The heaviest portion being the “mirror box." It weighs 72 pounds. The cage weighs 8 pounds. It is marginally manageable by one person... that one person being me. The telescope can be assembled by one person in approximately 5 minutes from the time you open the tailgate of the vehicle to begin unloading the telescope. The step ladder isn't necessary to place the cage on the trusses, but it is recommended. When pointed at the zenith, the telescope is 98 inches tall and 87 inches to the center of the eyepiece.
The purpose of "Ultra Light" Telescopes seems
to get lost in the debate of which is better, Light or the large heavy Telescope
for the more stable platform. The heavy scope means weight which mean
motion and surface area catches the wind. So is there really a stability
increase? For me. if the Telescope is large and cumbersome, it does not
get used. This is what drives the design. They say that the small
the Telescope, the more frequently it is used. This is certainly the case
for me as the TeleVue 85 is often grabbed while the 24 remains disassembled and
stored. The idea of "Ultra Light" and portability is to reduce that gap.
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Base and Azimuth Bearing |
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| March 26th, 2005, approximately 1 inch of inside radius was removed from the Base. This was part of the overall remodel of the Azimuth Bearing which included removing the "cheesy" closet bearings that the Carrier or "flex board" rotated around. The bearings were replaced by "cam followers" that now rotate around the outside of the base. | |||||
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Modified Base... compare to picture above |
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New Light & Dew Shields |
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In June of 2004, new light
shields at the cage and a new Dew shields were installed. The designs
were based on the experience at the 2002 Mt. Bachelor Star Party. The Light Shield on the Spider is new as well. It is "permanently" attached to the Cage so that it is not part of the assembly of the Telescope. It is smaller and contours with the light blocking Vanes and with the Mirror Cell for nesting. Additional shields can be Velcro-ed onto the lower portion of the shield if necessary. |
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Before... |
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The morning after at the Mt. Bachelor, Oregon Star Party 2002. Note that the Primary stayed dry, but the weight of the frost caused the shield to slump onto the trusses, blocking some of the light path. Note the frost on the Secondary Mirror. The Spider Vane protected most of the Mirror. |
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After... |
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New Shields...
first picture shows the new Cage and Primary Mirror Shields. The small
rectangular shield blocks dew while the larger shield has been trimmed to
contour with the Spider. |
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July 23rd, 2004 |
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| Where did the idea come from? | |||||||
| The idea originated from NEED. The need to be able to transport a large telescope in a small vehicle to a favorite observing site. | |||||||
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It was Canadian Michael
Taylor's 15 inch Telescope (see black & white photo below) featured in
the June 1979 issue of Sky & Telescope that initiated my interest in a
minimalist design. In reality, Michael's Telescope is massive by today's
standards, but it could be broken down and placed in a small car. Dan Grey graciously gives me credit for coming up with the large bearing design. Thank you Dan, but I did not. Scott Beard of Tacoma, Washington rebuilt a Coulter 17.5 inch Telescope using a large bearing design. I first saw the design at the 1997 Table Mountain Star Party. It and Mel Bartels 20 inch, also revealed at the same Table Mountain Star Party, helped inspire the 18 inch Telescope. Mel's design was driven by the need to be able to transport his telescope in a small pickup truck. My 24's design originated in August of 1999 and saw first light in June of 2000. |
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| . Evolution of design |
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Scott Beard's 17.5 inch Dobsonian |
18 inch f/4.55 |
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24 inch f/4 |
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Michael Taylor's 15 inch Telescope on the left. | ||||||
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Minimalist designs (left) have been on my drawing board since the
1970's. Keep in mind that this was the late 1970's. The lack of affordable technology discouraged the "XC-24". The Dobsonian like "X-1" was do able, but never done. |
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| Right, is Cave Optical's massive 16 inch Telescope. Photo was featured in their 1970 catalog. The image of the 24 inch shows the comparative sizes. The 24 inch gets 80% more light gathering power and can travel in a mid size car. |
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| After building the 18 inch and just prior to building the 24, I sketched several design ideas. The 25 inch was based on an available mirror ground by Mel Bartels. Note that it and the 30 inch were based on a "folded" optical design as is used in Dan Grey's 28 inch Telescope. Not show was a short lived 40 inch concept. This was based on my 3/4 inch thick x 40 inch diameter coffee table. It too would have been folded. The design was dropped due to the technical difficulty to produce and support the mirror and because of the Telescope's enormous size. It was being designed to travel in a conventional mid size SUV. | |||||||
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30 inch f/3.75 - 25 inch f/6.3 - 24 inch f'/4 with 8 trusses |
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Why do we design and build our own Telescopes? It isn't always to save money and it isn't always out of the love of building the Telescope. For many and me, it is because there are no production Dobsonians that meet the specifications we require. For me it is portability in a large aperture (24 inches). |
| Finally, in production in 2007, there is a large bearing commercial ultra light. Click below to read about the Obsession 18 uc. |
| Cloudy Nights review of the 18 inch uc |
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| My Current Telescopes |
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24 inch f/4 Telescope 10 inch f/5 Traveler 76mm / 85mm TeleVue Refractors |
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| My Past Telescopes |
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18 inch f/4.55 Telescope 14.25 inch / 10 inch Torque Tube / 8 inch / 4.5 inch Orion / 4.25 inch RFT 130mm Brandon / 94mm Brandon / 70mm TV Pronto 60mm Refractors |
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